Don’t worry: This episode isn’t nearly as long as the flights we’re talking about. But with Perth-London service launched recently we’re all about the very, very long flights. Plus, special guest Cynthia Drescher is back to join in the conversation.

Every now and then you’ll find us together somewhere around the world. This trip ended up in Sofia, Vaduz, Stuttgart and Munich because we suffered from indecision paralysis. Some fun stories along the way, though.