Daytime flights from the east coast of North America to London can be a great way to help recover from jetlag. But starting on the west coast can make them a mess. Fozz and Stephan both did that last week and agree that it isn’t a great idea. Plus, a stolen Q400, terminal dumps in Germany, and finally a use for the new Berlin airport!

Don’t worry: This episode isn’t nearly as long as the flights we’re talking about. But with Perth-London service launched recently we’re all about the very, very long flights. Plus, special guest Cynthia Drescher is back to join in the conversation.